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Nordanner Kaaring System

Sun Nov 27, 2011, 7:39 AM by BaliroAdmin:iconbaliroadmin:



:bulletyellow: NOTE:
The Kaaring List journal is not a complete list of registered quality blood horses. The Kaaring List is for us admins to update the ID Lists. Horse names are removed from the Kaaring List once the kaaring is noted on the ID lists.

As you read this you’ll notice certain changes have been made and things have been added. Please note: these changes are not retroactive for your kaaring level. This means that if your horse is already registered at a current level it stays that way (they never go down in levels) however you will have to take these changes into consideration for their next level. This means any art done even before the changes will still be held to these rules.

Quality Blood - the credit point system:
Making art and keeping your Nordanner active may earn you the proud title "Quality Blood".
To become Quality Blood, your Nordanner must gain 15 points using the system below:

:bulletpurple: One registration, colored, headshot or full body: 1 point*
Even if it is animated/has a background etc you will only get the points for it as a reference!
*Registration image is needed to gain other points!

:bulletpurple: Uncolored art: 0.5
Includes digital sketches, pencil drawings, charcoal shaded art, uncolored greyscales etc, full body or headshots are the same. (Remember even on uncolored art the markings must at least be sketched in.)

:bulletpurple: Partial body, colored: 0.5
Partial body is anything that does not go to the knee or only shows a portion of the horse. We welcome creativity however please note that just a hoof or eye will no longer count. It either needs to show all 4 feet or extend up to the belly.

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: 1 point
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. This applies to chibi as well as non chibi drawings. With plain background we are referring to solid colored backgrounds, abstract texture backgrounds or transparent backgrounds with drop shadows etc. Just sections of blue and green are also considered simple. (And brown and blue, basically just 2 sections of color is considered simple.)

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: 2 points
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. With painted backgrounds we are referring to an actual background created by the artist him/herself, such as showing the horse in the paddock, a riding arena, forest etc.

:bulletpurple: New! Show entries OR training images: +1
By +1 we mean you add it to the base scoring. So full body art show entry with bg is 2 +1 = 3 points. These points do not stack.
For training we ONLY count images where a handler and/or rider is visible, partial body accepted, but must be over 50% visible. We do not accept stick figures or fingers thrown in on the side. And shadow trainers are not allowed either to avoid people using brushes to quickly add training. Anywhere you do not see handler/rider will not be accepted no matter what, we want it to be very clear what is training and what is not. The point in awarding the extra point is to give you a bit of a reward for drawing in the human, humans are hard! So free jumping only counts if handler is shown on the ground etc.

:bulletpurple: New! Dragon tack images: +1 point
By +1 we mean you add it to the base scoring. So full body art with dragon tack and a bg is 2 +1 = 3 points. So if you have a show entry that also has dragon tack you will now receive +2 for that piece.
For dragon tack it must be full body, headshots with dragon tack unfortunately don’t count. The goal in giving the extra point is to, again, reward you for drawing in the full tack.

:bulletpurple: Show Placings:

Special show titles: Champion, Reserve Champion, Best in Show, Judge’s Choice etc: +1 point

1st place: +3 points

2nd place: +2 points

3rd place: +1 point

4th place or lower: +0.5 point

Must be officially placed. If you don’t know the exact placing you don’t get the points! Import hunt and major official events like dragon hunts etc count the same as a normal show. If you’re ever unsure whether a group contest counts for show points please feel free to ask!

:bulletpurple: Animations: +2 points (base)
Example: Full body art with no background + animated = 3 points
If the horse is shown more than once on a page each separate image of the horse must be animated in some way. If only the background is animated that is +2 overall for the entire image.
Also! If your animation is a background animation you may not just copy and paste the same thing animated into each image. Think of this like the line rules, if you use it once that’s the only time it counts. (This doesn’t mean you can’t have all your horses blink, just don’t copy paste things!)
New! Animations are now divided into three categories and give points accordingly.
Simple: +2 (e.x blink, ear flick)
Medium Complexity: +4 (e.x mane/tail moving in combination with blink)
Complex: +8 - 15. Admin discretion will be relied on at this point to determine which level; if it becomes a point of contention this will be changed to a flat number. (e.x movement cycles)

:bulletpurple: Statues/Plushies:
These are relatively new so we’re still working out the kinks here!
Sculptures:
- If this is a model you purchased and painted to look like your horse (details matter here guys, we need to be able to tell it’s your horse): 1
- If this is a basic horse sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 4
- If this is a detailed sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 8
Plushies:
- If this is a basic plushie created to look like your horse: 4
- If this is a complex detailed plushie created to look like your horse: 8

:bulletpurple: Stories:
This section is also new so we’re still working it out. Be patient with us while we make sure everything works like it should.
The story must directly relate to your horse in some way. Character building is totally ok! We just don’t want to see 5 paragraphs with your humans or anthro-badgers discussing why toast is amazing and then a bit of “and Mary Sue glanced out to see Mr. Fish training in the yard” at the end.
- 250-499 words: +1
- 500 words + 2
- 1,000 words: +3 
- 1,500 words: +4 
- 2,000 words: +5 
- 3,000 words: + 8
- 3,500 words and up: +12 - 15. Admin discretion will be relied on at this point to determine which level; if it becomes a point of contention this will be changed to a flat number.

Note! If another Nordanner is included in the story (Has to be more than just “Gold was there” and I will be scanning to check this.) that horse can earn anywhere from +1 - 10 points towards their kaaring as well depending on overall length and involvement.

:bulletpurple: Kaaring Farms
Yes, we all know kaaring farms and we’ve seen them become much more prevalent lately.
So! No low-quality kaaring farms will be allowed. Images must be scanned or photographed properly, if horses cannot be made out clearly it doesn't count, this means markings must be clear and the horse must be large enough to make out. If there are a few images on a page they need to at least be colored. We do not want to see pages of uncolored images with a few sketchy trainers. If we believe an image to be a kaaring farm and we have it confirmed by another admin either points will be deducted or it simply will not count towards kaaring.
We know you want to get your horses to the next level quickly but the point is to reward you for the work it takes to get there, not reward you for creating 20 images with a bunch of blinking headshots. We love you guys but it’s just gotten a bit out of hand.

:bulletpurple: Lineage Points:
Please note! In order to get points for lineage the horse must be officially registered as Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood with the group in order to count for points. They may have enough kaaring but if they’re not marked on either the Kaaring Journal or their ID list then it doesn’t count. Example: 675 Elephantboots <- no stars or trophies, not registered. *****675 Elephantboots <- 5 stars, registered as Quality Blood etc.

- Purebred offspring reaching “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Includes direct offspring, great grand offsprings etc.

- Each parent in lineage with “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Example: Sire, dam and grand sire being quality blood would earn the foal 6 points.

Attention! There is now a cap on how much kaaring your horse can earn from lineage, that cap is 100 kaaring points.

:bulletpurple: Photo backgrounds, premade lineart and other types of stock made by you or others: 0 points.

Art rules:
Both digital and traditional art are welcome.

No premade lineart, no re-using old lineart. If you use a set of lines in one image you may not reuse it in another, this applies to registration images as well.

Backgrounds may NOT be photo, art stock, or reused to count for points.

Shading is not a demand.

Each image only counts once!

Photomanipulations do not count for any points.

Also! If you draw your horse’s ref, and then use that same ref to design the tack, you can only count that image once, not twice, since you are re-using the reference.  

Art made by others:
Art made by others count as much as art made by yourself, whether it’s a gift or purchased images.

Same rules are applied to this art in order for it to count though, just as when you draw it yourself.

When a Nordanner is sold all points are transferred to the new owner.

Import and foal designs cannot be counted towards kaaring since they are made with lineart.


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The Levels

:star: 15 points

:star::star: 30 points

:star::star::star: 45 points

:star::star::star::star: 60 points

:star::star::star::star::star: 75 – Horse can use the group Best Mare/Best stallion ribbon and title.

:trophy: 200 points – Horse is awarded 10 extra free breedings mutation or natural and the title Excellent Blood.

:trophy::trophy: 400 points – Horse is titled Supreme Blood. Natural Nordanners are awarded unlimited breedings. However 100 of the kaaring must be done by the owners themselves. Mutation horses that have reached 400 with art kaaring alone are awarded new potions that can be found here - Kaaring Unlocked Potions List

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How to register as Quality / Excellent / Supreme Blood
Also known as: A guide on how to not make Shadow go crazy.

To register the horse at the right kaaring level you must:

1. Send in a NOTE to the Nordanner group.
2. Title the note the level you are hoping to the register the horse at. Example: “Quality Nordanner” “Excellent Nordanner” etc.
3. Include a link to the horse’s reference and kaaring journal.
4. List all valid art points in a journal using thumbnails. (You may also use st.ash documents if you’d rather not take up journals. And! Should thumbnails just not work for you or not be a feasible option then please make sure your links are named and properly listed. I will not accept just fav.me/ over and over again. Make sure you tell me this though!)
5. List all valid lineage by listing the ID number and name or just the ID number and how much you’re counting it for (+2 / +3).
6. Please do not list the entire lineage for the horse. I only need the ones that you are counting as QB or above. It’s much easier not to have to try and look through each line of lineage to see if you put a star next to the horse’s name or not.
7. List all show placings and proof of these placings. Please don’t make me search through multiple pages, just link me to the exact journal/location that shows the placings for that class/show.
8. You all would be amazing and really streamline the kaaring process if you can include the totals for each section. It’s so wonderful to not have to guess how much you’re counting an image or group of images for. This way if we have a discrepancy I can figure out why.
9. To make sure I can handle multiple notes in one day I’m going to ask you guys to limit notes to 4 Nordanners (4 checks). However! There is an exception to this, Excellent and Supreme Blood checks need to be in their own notes. The reasons I’m asking for this rule to be followed is so I can get to more than 1 note per night.
10. When checked and accepted (or if there are problems) you will get a reply.
11. Horse is NOT Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood before it has been accepted by the kaaring admin!

Some credit goes to :iconharpg-aha: and :iconh-e-w-a: for the idea of a credit system!

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Here is a quick example of how to count out your horse’s kaaring using part of the kaaring from ShadowRaven1’s horse Peaches.
Note! This is just one of the ways to properly organize your kaaring. There are several other methods that I have come across and that work just as well. If you’re ever curious on how to set up your journal/st.ash etc please feel free to send me a note on my account, I am always willing to help.

Registration picture: +1
1312 Peaches And Cream by ShadowRaven1

Headshots, colored: +0.5
1312 Peach HS by Absolute-CheeseFace

Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: +1


Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: +2
Peach Grove by ShadowRaven1
Purebred offspring reaching "Quality Blood" status: +4
1729 Soeia's Mermista
4470 Surrender the Moment
Each parent in lineage with "Excellent Blood" status: +3
461 KS Going Spotty

Total Points: 11.5

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:iconwolfsheeta:
wolfsheeta Featured By Owner 13 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
do you have to note the nordannegroup to achieve the kaaring stars? Like for when you have enough kaaring to for example get four or five stars?
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner 13 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
yep please!
a link to the reference and that horses' journal c:
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:iconz0mbiekid:
z0mbiekid Featured By Owner 5 days ago
Could the kaaring admin plz tell me if the horse lying down at the front counts as full or partial body plz!
Watching by z0mbiekid
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd give you the point for full body because I believe I can see 50% of your pon in that pose c:
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:iconz0mbiekid:
z0mbiekid Featured By Owner 16 hours ago
Thank you
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:icontheblackalicorn:
TheBlackAlicorn Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Rumada's Cory by TheBlackAlicorn Rumada's Cory by TheBlackAlicorn
Can I get an Admin opinion on this animation?
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi! I would class this as medium complexity due to the eye blink and head movement, so 4 points for the animation and 0.5 for the headshot means it has a total worth of 4.5 kaaring points!
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:icontheblackalicorn:
TheBlackAlicorn Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
THanks!
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:iconz0mbiekid:
z0mbiekid Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2017
Do points stack when it comes to uncoloured art?
Asking for this one: What? - sketch
Would it just count for the 0.5 for uncoloured, or would it also count for the dragon tack?
I'm also not sure if images like that count for the handler bonus or not, since it's not actually a training image, but there is a handler... lol
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HoT-Stables Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2017
They definitely do stack, so it would 1.5 kaaring for uncoloured plus the tack. Personally, I would not count that as training (especially if it was the aftermath of a show), but thats up to the discretion of the kaaring admin. If there was a story that followed with some sort of training exercise I could definitely see it as counting. Just depends really!
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:iconz0mbiekid:
z0mbiekid Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2017
Yeah I wouldn't count it as training, his trainer just happens to be present lol. Thanks for the reply on the stackability! might just wait til I've coloured them though lol
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Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As part of some fun I'm doing for people as a tag-along to the recent Peafowl Parade, I was going to raffle off some peacock page dolls, but coloured as the winner's peafowl nordanner horses. Could someone confirm for me if they would be worth a full body kaaring point? I realise they wouldn't be the same species, but I will be making an effort to replicate the horse's patterns and markings on the bird as much as possible, using their plume designs to design the tail feathers.

I understand if not, but I just wanted to check so I know what I can tell the winners regarding any worth in Kaaring :) Thanks for your time!
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RoseOaks Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
unfortunately they wouldn't count for kaaring, though the idea us adorable!
Narine allows transformation into a Centaur, Hippogriff or Kelpie, but that's the limit at the moment with allowing kaaring to a horse that doesn't look like a horse c:
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Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hippogriff, that was the other one! XD Yep, Teal just told me the same, which I figured, but thought I'd check anyway.

Would it be okay to submit the peacock-ified image of a Nordy to the group art just for the sake of it, though there's no points involved, or would you rather keep it out of the group? Just so I know :) Thanks for the reply!
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not fully up to speed with the side of accepting things in the the group, but give it a shot and if not there are always other groups like NordAdverts or NordAssociation  c:
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Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Will do - and thanks for the links!
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TealMagpie Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2017
sadly  only horse art will count for kaaring, unless their form has been changed by a familiar but i think tht is limited to centaur and a couple others? 
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Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, centaur and Kelpie and something else, maybe? No worries - I figured that was probably the case but had to check :) Thanks so much for the quick reply!

(on a detour to that point, though - would it be okay to submit the peacock-ified version into the group gallery anyway, or is that just for familiar zapped changes, too?)
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:iconzaskow-nordanners:
Zaskow-Nordanners Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So if I have a partial body image with a background that would still only count for .5 kaaring?
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
that's correct! currently backgrounds only count on full body images
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:iconzaskow-nordanners:
Zaskow-Nordanners Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh. Ok
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Just checking, but is the kaaring points listed here for parents in lineage outdated? As of the new lineage system, I think the points all got bumped up one, so +3 for Quality parent and so on?
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
that's right!
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:)
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:iconwildly-unaware:
wildly-unaware Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2017  Student General Artist
Hey I have a question about a Nordanner I recently purchased - 5107 Reckless Serenade
He is registered as Excellent blood but I can't find more than maybe 7 points worth of art and I was just wondering how I would count this if he has already been registered as EB? (I'm just guessing that a lot of art has been removed) Will I count the extras I have now as add ons to 200 kaaring? Same with lineage, how will I count it or will I just keep lineage as have been counted within the 200 points?
Thank you! :heart:
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi!
any new kaaring will be counted as 'new' and cannot be stacked on what his previous total could have been
he won't lose his EB title, but if you wish to work him to higher levels you'll have to start from what you have now

lineage will be under the new system, but that will still be to a maximum of 100 points from lineage

hope this helped a bit!
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:iconwildly-unaware:
wildly-unaware Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2017  Student General Artist
No prob that sounds about right, thank you for the clear up! :D
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toteczious Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Question:
-What If I make comics? Like one page/deviation got so many images and stories? How can I calculate this?
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
it would be calculated per image of the comic, so long as it doesn't look too crammed or like a kaaring farm you should be alright!
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:icontoteczious:
toteczious Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay. Then... Can my Nordanners do some aerial flight for strength trial? Some of my Nordanners have pegasus wings.
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
that would be absolutely fine!!
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi :)  a couple more questions - (I seem to single-handedly be filling up your comment section) :D

1. Will there ever be kaaring points for drawing a Familiar? (I figure their own, individual perks take the plce of kaaring, but wanted to check all the same ^^)
2. For the Dragon tack point, does the horse have to be fully grown/actually wearing their tack? Is it possible to get the point if they're not actually wearing it, but a full set is drawn? (for a context - I'd like to eventually draw Heaven being fitted for a set by a 'Dragon armouring professional' XD, and wonder if drawing her in his shop/forge, with articles around would earn the point).

Thank you!
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
not sure about the familiar points, as drawings including them will probably go towards their trust with the horse they are bonded to

I would be alright with that idea of having the armour around the horse, so long as the tack doesn't look unrecognisable c:
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I assumed so.

And I will do my best to make it look recognisable :) I'll run it by you for checking when the time comes to be sure.

Thank you so much for the response :)
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner May 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry, another question :)

I would like to know how you'd rule the animation in this if possible? A Little Bonding

- The whole image is shaded, including the 6 unique frames in the 30 frame pattern and I've never actually animated before beyond fade ins/flashes. I don't know if you consider that when judging complexity, but as I saw it as a movement cycle I'd really like to get a ruling from you gurus on it. Many thanks!
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner May 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
this piece is a medium complexity animation by our standards and so would get 4 points for the animation c:
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner May 5, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome; thanks so much! :)
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Could someone tell me how many points this would be worth, please?

Birthday Blanket

I'm thinking partial body?, but there doesn't seem to be a painted background point allowance that goes with that. Help much appreciated :)
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi! because I can see a little over 50% of the horse I'd give you the full body point, which also includes the background point. so 2 points for you!!

partial body pieces don't currently gain a point for background, no matter the effort that has gone into it I'm afraid :c
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:icontattered-dreams:
Tattered-Dreams Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, thank you so much!

And that's a shame, but thanks for letting me know so I'm not caught out in the future :)
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z0mbiekid Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2017
Question!
"Show entries OR training images OR Dragon tack images: +1 point"
Will those ever get separated out? Because I kind of feel like the point should be for the effort put in, so it seems a little unfair that a drawing with full dragon tack and a rider will be worth the same amount as a bare horse entered into a liberty show
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:iconroseoaks:
RoseOaks Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
what's happened here!
has your question been answered! :eyes:
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:iconz0mbiekid:
z0mbiekid Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2017
Definitely pleased with this update though, but still think it should be separated further
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:iconz0mbiekid:
z0mbiekid Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2017
Well it's a good start for sure, but training and show should still be separated for my reasons given before - a horse fully tacked and shown with rider should be worth at least 1 point more than a bare liberty entry!
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CopperRidge Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2017  Hobbyist
Would the placing's from the HARPG-ShowCircuit count for kaarring if no piece of art was done for the placing? Or does there need to be an art piece to go with the placing to be counted for kaarring?
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bopsie Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, so what about head shots with two other horses in the image plus a background?
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:iconnachtmahre:
nachtmahre Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2017  Professional Interface Designer
It would only be .5 kaaring for each horse, assuming all 3 are headshots.
Backgrounds do not give an added bonus for headshot drawings.
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:iconbopsie:
bopsie Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, well not uploading it till I can make a story then (That way I'll have very few .5's, math's not my thing)
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Eleanor-T Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a question. Not sure if this was asked before.

I bought a horse from someone who had only drawn the reference. I drew a new reference, found here. Will the old reference count as registration image or can I count it as a full body?
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RoseOaks Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
it would count as 1 point, for full body without background c:
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