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Nordanner Kaaring System

Journal Entry: Sun Nov 27, 2011, 7:39 AM




:bulletyellow: NOTE:
The Kaaring List journal is not a complete list of registered quality blood horses. The Kaaring List is for us admins to update the ID Lists. Horse names are removed from the Kaaring List once the kaaring is noted on the ID lists.

As you read this you’ll notice certain changes have been made and things have been added. Please note: these changes are not retroactive for your kaaring level. This means that if your horse is already registered at a current level it stays that way (they never go down in levels) however you will have to take these changes into consideration for their next level. This means any art done even before the changes will still be held to these rules.

Quality Blood - the credit point system:
Making art and keeping your Nordanner active may earn you the proud title "Quality Blood".
To become Quality Blood, your Nordanner must gain 15 points using the system below:

:bulletpurple: One registration, colored, headshot or full body: 1 point*
Even if it is animated/has a background etc you will only get the points for it as a reference!
*Registration image is needed to gain other points!

:bulletpurple: Uncolored art: 0.5
Includes digital sketches, pencil drawings, charcoal shaded art, uncolored greyscales etc, full body or headshots are the same. (Remember even on uncolored art the markings must at least be sketched in.)

:bulletpurple: Partial body, colored: 0.5
Partial body is anything that does not go to the knee or only shows a portion of the horse. We welcome creativity however please note that just a hoof will no longer count. It either needs to show all 4 feet or extend up to the belly.

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: 1 point
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. This applies to chibi as well as non chibi drawings. With plain background we are referring to solid colored backgrounds, abstract texture backgrounds or transparent backgrounds with drop shadows etc. Just sections of blue and green are also considered simple. (And brown and blue, basically just 2 sections of color is considered simple.)

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: 2 points
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. With painted backgrounds we are referring to an actual background created by the artist him/herself, such as showing the horse in the paddock, a riding arena, forest etc.

:bulletpurple: Show entries OR training images OR Dragon tack images: +1 point
By +1 we mean you add it to the base scoring. So full body art show entry with bg is 2 +1 = 3 points. These points do not stack. So if you have a show entry that also has dragon tack you still only receive +1 for the entire image.
For training we ONLY count images where a handler and/or rider is visible, partial body accepted. We do not accept stick figures or fingers thrown in on the side. And shadow trainers are not allowed either to avoid people using brushes to quickly add training. Anywhere you do not see handler/rider will not be accepted no matter what, we want it to be very clear what is training and what is not. The point in awarding the extra point is to give you a bit of a reward for drawing in the human, humans are hard! So free jumping only counts if handler is shown on the ground etc.
For dragon tack it must be full body, headshots with dragon tack unfortunately don’t count. The goal in giving the extra point is to, again, reward you for drawing in the full tack.

:bulletpurple: Show Placings:

Special show titles: Champion, Reserve Champion, Best in Show, Judge’s Choice etc: +1 point

1st place: +3 points

2nd place: +2 points

3rd place: +1 point

4th place or lower: +0.5 point

Must be officially placed. If you don’t know the exact placing you don’t get the points! Import hunt and major official events like dragon hunts etc count the same as a normal show. If you’re ever unsure whether a group contest counts for show points please feel free to ask!

:bulletpurple: Animations: +2 points
Example: Full body art with no background + animated = 3 points
If the horse is shown more than once on a page each separate image of the horse must be animated in some way. If only the background is animated that is +2 overall for the entire image.
Also! If your animation is a background animation you may not just copy and paste the same thing animated into each image. Think of this like the line rules, if you use it once that’s the only time it counts. (This doesn’t mean you can’t have all your horses blink, just don’t copy paste things!)
New! For complex full body animations (such as running/rearing animations) +4. This will be up to admin discretion though, it will be confirmed by other admins that it is a complex animation if it’s not entirely clear.

:bulletpurple: Statues/Plushies:
These are new so we’re still working out the kinks here!
Sculptures:
- If this is a model you purchased and painted to look like your horse (details matter here guys, we need to be able to tell it’s your horse): 1
- If this is a basic horse sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 2
- If this is a detailed sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 4
Plushies:
- If this is a basic plushie created to look like your horse: 2
- If this is a complex detailed plushie created to look like your horse: 4

:bulletpurple: Stories:
This section is also new so we’re still working it out. Be patient with us while we make sure everything works like it should.
The story must directly relate to your horse in some way. Character building is totally ok! We just don’t want to see 5 paragraphs with your humans or anthro-badgers discussing why toast is amazing and then a bit of “and Mary Sue glanced out to see Mr. Fish training in the yard” at the end.
- 500 words: +1 point
- 1,000 words: +2 points
- 1,500 words: +3 points
- 2,000 words: +4 points

Note! If another Nordanner is included in the story (Has to me more than just “Gold was there” and I will be scanning to check this.) that horse can earn +1 towards their kaaring as well.

:bulletpurple: Kaaring Farms
Yes, we all know kaaring farms and we’ve seen them become much more prevalent lately.
So! No low-quality kaaring farms will be allowed. Images must be scanned or photographed properly, if horses cannot be made out clearly it doesn't count, this means markings must be clear and the horse must be large enough to make out. If there are a few images on a page they need to at least be colored. We do not want to see pages of uncolored images with a few sketchy trainers. If we believe an image to be a kaaring farm and we have it confirmed by another admin either points will be deducted or it simply will not count towards kaaring.
We know you want to get your horses to the next level quickly but the point is to reward you for the work it takes to get there, not reward you for creating 20 images with a bunch of blinking headshots. We love you guys but it’s just gotten a bit out of hand.

:bulletpurple: Lineage Points:
Please note! In order to get points for lineage the horse must be officially registered as Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood with the group in order to count for points. They may have enough kaaring but if they’re not marked on either the Kaaring Journal or their ID list then it doesn’t count. Example: 675 Elephantboots <- no stars or trophies, not registered. *****675 Elephantboots <- 5 stars, registered as Quality Blood etc.

- Purebred offspring reaching “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Includes direct offspring, great grand offsprings etc.

- Each parent in lineage with “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Example: Sire, dam and grand sire being quality blood would earn the foal 6 points.

Attention! There is now a cap on how much kaaring your horse can earn from lineage, that cap is 100 kaaring points.

:bulletpurple: Photo backgrounds, premade lineart and other types of stock made by you or others: 0 points.

Art rules:
Both digital and traditional art are welcome.

No premade lineart, no re-using old lineart. If you use a set of lines in one image you may not reuse it in another, this applies to registration images as well.

Backgrounds may NOT be photo, art stock, or reused to count for points.

Shading is not a demand.

Each image only counts once!

Photomanipulations do not count for any points.

Also! If you draw your horse’s ref, and then use that same ref to design the tack, you can only count that image once, not twice, since you are re-using the reference.  

Art made by others:
Art made by others count as much as art made by yourself, whether it’s a gift or purchased images.

Same rules are applied to this art in order for it to count though, just as when you draw it yourself.

When a Nordanner is sold all points are transferred to the new owner.

Import and foal designs cannot be counted towards kaaring since they are made with lineart.


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The Levels

:star: 15 points

:star::star: 30 points

:star::star::star: 45 points

:star::star::star::star: 60 points

:star::star::star::star::star: 75 – Horse can use the group Best Mare/Best stallion ribbon and title.

:trophy: 200 points – Horse is awarded 10 extra free breedings mutation or natural and the title Excellent Blood.

:trophy::trophy: 400 points – Horse is titled Supreme Blood. Natural Nordanners are awarded unlimited breedings. However 100 of the kaaring must be done by the owners themselves. Mutation horses that have reached 400 with art kaaring alone are awarded new potions that can be found here - Kaaring Unlocked Potions List

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How to register as Quality / Excellent / Supreme Blood
Also known as: A guide on how to not make Shadow go crazy.

To register the horse at the right kaaring level you must:

1. Send in a NOTE to the Nordanner group.
2. Title the note the level you are hoping to the register the horse at. Example: “Quality Nordanner” “Excellent Nordanner” etc.
3. Include a link to the horse’s reference and kaaring journal.
4. List all valid art points in a journal using thumbnails. (You may also use st.ash documents if you’d rather not take up journals. And! Should thumbnails just not work for you or not be a feasible option then please make sure your links are named and properly listed. I will not accept just fav.me/ over and over again. Make sure you tell me this though!)
5. List all valid lineage by listing the ID number and name or just the ID number and how much you’re counting it for (+2 / +3).
6. Please do not list the entire lineage for the horse. I only need the ones that you are counting as QB or above. It’s much easier not to have to try and look through each line of lineage to see if you put a star next to the horse’s name or not.
7. List all show placings and proof of these placings. Please don’t make me search through multiple pages, just link me to the exact journal/location that shows the placings for that class/show.
8. You all would be amazing and really streamline the kaaring process if you can include the totals for each section. It’s so wonderful to not have to guess how much you’re counting an image or group of images for. This way if we have a discrepancy I can figure out why.
9. To make sure I can handle multiple notes in one day I’m going to ask you guys to limit notes to 4 Nordanners (4 checks). However! There is an exception to this, Excellent and Supreme Blood checks need to be in their own notes. The reasons I’m asking for this rule to be followed is so I can get to more than 1 note per night.
10. When checked and accepted (or if there are problems) you will get a reply.
11. Horse is NOT Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood before it has been accepted by the kaaring admin!

Some credit goes to :iconharpg-aha: and :iconh-e-w-a: for the idea of a credit system!

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Here is a quick example of how to count out your horse’s kaaring using part of the kaaring from ShadowRaven1’s horse Peaches.
Note! This is just one of the ways to properly organize your kaaring. There are several other methods that I have come across and that work just as well. If you’re ever curious on how to set up your journal/st.ash etc please feel free to send me a note on my account, I am always willing to help.

Registration picture: +1
1312 Peaches And Cream by ShadowRaven1

Headshots, colored: +0.5
1312 Peach HS by Absolute-CheeseFace

Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: +1


Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: +2
Peach Grove by ShadowRaven1
Purebred offspring reaching "Quality Blood" status: +4
1729 Soeia's Mermista
4470 Surrender the Moment
Each parent in lineage with "Excellent Blood" status: +3
461 KS Going Spotty

Total Points: 11.5

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:iconryxiall:
Ryxiall Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Professional Digital Artist
Question :3 A neat sketch that has been coloured, shaded, and has a plain/simple background... would that be 0.5, or 1 kaaring? <3 thankyou in advance!
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Zandromina Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
If the sketch is a fullbody, coloured, and has a background that's more than grass and sky, it'll count as +2
If the sketch is a headshot, coloured, and has a background, it's +0.5
Shading doesn't add to the kaaring count
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EskimoDogsRule Featured By Owner 2 days ago
hey just a quickie, does basic/detailed shading count any extra points in kaaring?
Just thinking because of the extra effort put in is all :)
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
No, sorry :c Shading doesn't add anymore points
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:iconeskimodogsrule:
EskimoDogsRule Featured By Owner 1 day ago
no worries there <3 but i guess it can just look pretty then I am a dummy! 
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The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not sure if I've asked this before and I apologise if I have and I'm repeating myself but I forgot ;n;, but do you count chibis as art? And if so what do they count as? Do they count as coloured fullbodies or do they have their own categories?

I wanted to do a chibi pagedoll or two of my Angler Peafowl boy and wondered if it would count for kaaring and what it would count as point wise :3

Examples of what my chibis look like, if it helps :) :
Cuddles? :3 by The-Elvenqueen Check Out That Hottie Fullsize [COMM] by The-Elvenqueen
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
We do count chibis as art, yes. They count for the normal amount of points (fullbody =2, fb/bg = 2, etc)
The only way they wouldn't count is if you put like 20 on a page at once, as then it counts as a kaaring farm.
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The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay cool, thank you! :D

Nah, I wouldn't do that, the most I'd put on one page at a time would be maybe 2 or 3 and usually that's a "group picture" with more than one horse in it anyways x3 thanks again! :)
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KingdomHeartsOrgXII3 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
I have a question for you guys and it makes me feel like I like just joined the group or something x'DD
I have this mare, and some of her kaaring was deleted. I stuck everything deleted into sta.sh and then put on each image that I do NOT own it but that i'm reuploading it so that it can count towards her kaaring count. One of these images was a deleted bid of the mare in question, and the person who made it came after me like a rabid animal, so I took it down. I've put it back in sta.sh but haven't readded it to her journal.

What I want to know, is that can I still count it towards her count since it was a bid that the person deleted? Is that allowed since I don't claim it as my own?
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Unless the image was a payment of some kind (for slots, horses, whatever), if the original owner of it doesn't want you to use it/reupload it, you are not allowed to. So the owner of the art bid has all rights to ask you to remove it, and right to complain if you don't
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KingdomHeartsOrgXII3 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Alrighty thanks c:
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Warriorwood-Fields Featured By Owner Edited Aug 11, 2015  Student General Artist
I have a question! Say we were to draw a horse jumping, but at different stages. Like, drawing 5 different full bodies at different stages of a jump in one full picture, then put a simple animation on each full body. Would each full body with the animation be counted as +4 for each full body + background +animation? Or what?
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:iconsilvereyedhorse:
If I bought a horse and gave him +1 cuz I made registration picture what should I do with previous ref? Now it's just fullbody art with background, can I count it as a kaaring?
And if I have 2 Nordanners on fullbody art with background both my Nordies will get points?
And (again xD) if sire and grand sire have quality blood my foal earn 4p. but can I check grand grand... dams and sires too to get more points and stop when I get 100?
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
If the previous reference is a fullbody with a background that hasn't been used before, it will count as +2
Art never counts for just one horse unless it isn't done properly; all horses in the images should count for art individually. So each horse will receive +2
You can go all the way back to the starters of your horse's lineage, and only have to stop when you reach 100 lineage points
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:iconsilvereyedhorse:
SilverEyedHorse Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015
This art was used as a refence when horse was in previous owner, so I don't know If I can give any points now.
Is it counted as a simple background (+1) or +2? fav.me/d94y2c0
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Nah it counts as a full background +2
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:iconsilvereyedhorse:
SilverEyedHorse Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015
Thank you ^^ but how about previous ref?
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The previous ref will count for points if the lineart itself has not been used more than once
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SilverEyedHorse Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015
Ohh so it will count +2 thanks a lot ^^ now u're free xD
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LiveWild4Ever Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know in the rules it says "No premade lineart, no re-using old lineart. If you use a set of lines in one image you may not reuse it in another, this applies to registration images as well. " but does this mean no re-using any lines in general/at all or just those the horse has already been drawn in? I know that in some breeds, if I re-used these lines & shading Asgardian Sky Dressage - The Riddler but coloured the horse in as a different character, that would still count to full point amount. So what i'm wondering is if that also applies with nordanners? As another example, if i re-used those lines and shading for the same character but changed the background, that wouldn't count for points.
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Nope, we don't allow any way to reuse lineart for any horse. If you've used the lineart already in your gallery/it's a premade lineart, whathaveyou, even for a different breed, we don't allow it to count for any points towards Nordanners
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:iconlivewild4ever:
LiveWild4Ever Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh, fair enough :) That makes sense; I just wanted to double check :aww:
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:iconlaradapuppeh:
LaraDaPuppeh Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
Question, how many points would a fullbody, shaded walk cycle with a big be worth?
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015
That would be worth a total of 6 points assuming I'm picturing what you're describing correctly ^^. 
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:iconlaradapuppeh:
LaraDaPuppeh Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
Ah, alright
Thank you ^u^
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xxElanite Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
for full body and background, does a bubble background count? this is what im talking about: orig04.deviantart.net/7d54/f/2…
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015
Assuming that the image within the bubble isn't simple then yes that would be considered as full body with bg. 
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:iconxxelanite:
xxElanite Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright! Thanks
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Imagikey Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
- 500 words: +1 point
- 1,000 words: +2 points
- 1,500 words: +3 points
- 2,000 words: +4 points

this for the story, is it 1 point for 1-500 words or 1 point for 500-999 ?
i have done the last until now, but if its the other way its nice to know, i was a little unsure right now. 
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
No it has to be exactly 500 words to count :stare:
Just kidding
500-999 counts for 1 point
1,000-1,500 counts for 2 points
etc etc
If the story is under 500 words, it doesn't count for points
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Imagikey Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
ok, then i have counted right until now :) 

just a thought, will it be possible to have +1 on stories whit training also? sins picture whit training have +1, shouldent it be possible on the stories also?

and little, how much do the other horses need to be manage to count as point for them also? (example on pice i am unsure of if you want to say something of it, if you dont want to read or have time i understand  An adventure on this i am unsure if Star and Nim will get a point also)

thanks for the answer :)
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
To get a point for a horse who is not the main feature they still need to play a minor roll in the story. Simply a sentence mentioning that they are there would not count but something where act in a supporting roll would. If you are ever unsure feel free to message me and I can help you figure out if it would count as kaaring for another horse.
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Stories count on anything: headshots, sculptures, fullbody training images, anything

Since I'm not the kaaring admin, I couldn't actually tell you how much of a story a horse has to be in. I'm sure when ShadowRaven1 has a moment, she'll be happy to tell you :)
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:iconimagikey:
Imagikey Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
do they need to be on a picture? i use pure story often, it was in a case like this i wondered it it can be pluss on training in the story. 
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
They can just be in a literature deviation if you want :)
OH, I see what you mean now. No, I don't believe that if you put that the horse is training in the story, it doesn't count as a story with +1 training
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:iconimagikey:
Imagikey Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
ok, maybe you should think of having it? it takes time to write also so it had been fun and nice if it could be possible to get training there also. 

thanks for all the answer :)
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
We won't be making any changes to the system for a long time, currently, as any changes tend to upset the community right now. That, and training was never really supposed to apply to stories, from what I understand. It's not supposed to be something people can 'farm'; it's more for the people who love to write as opposed to to those who just want to wrack up points :)
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HyaIite Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a quick question regarding the statues/plushies section.

I make little figurines out of wool using a process known as needle felting.  I would like to make one of my Nordanners, but since it is a time consuming process and requires a lot of effort, I was wondering if they even count for kaaring since they don't fit cleanly into both the sculpture and plushy categories.
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Zandromina is correct, that would be something that would be considered a plush figure :).
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I believe they would be considered as plushies and so fit into that category :)
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:iconhyaiite:
HyaIite Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, thanks!
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DatNachtmaehre Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2015
I have a short question.

Does this count as headshots or does it already go under Kaaring farm?

HEAD SHOTS 2 and headshots

I'm wondering because in case it does I need to let the person know that their payment is not complete.
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Both of these are coming up as 404 for me I'm afraid ^^;
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:icondatnachtmaehre:
DatNachtmaehre Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Maybe I'm stupid but what does 404 means?
I only know this as a number so if it's a code for something I do not get it. ^^ ;
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
It means link not found. So when I click on those links it tells me it can't find that page ^^. 
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DatNachtmaehre Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Oh it's the Error 404. :iconfacepalmplz:

 
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Yes ^^ that's the one. 
So if you relink those I can take a look and let you know. 
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DatNachtmaehre Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
I can't find them back as well. o.O
Looks like the artist splited them up onto pieces of two.
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2015
Fair enough ^^. 
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