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Nordanner Kaaring System

Journal Entry: Sun Nov 27, 2011, 7:39 AM




:bulletyellow: NOTE:
The Kaaring List journal is not a complete list of registered quality blood horses. The Kaaring List is for us admins to update the ID Lists. Horse names are removed from the Kaaring List once the kaaring is noted on the ID lists.

As you read this you’ll notice certain changes have been made and things have been added. Please note: these changes are not retroactive for your kaaring level. This means that if your horse is already registered at a current level it stays that way (they never go down in levels) however you will have to take these changes into consideration for their next level. This means any art done even before the changes will still be held to these rules.

Quality Blood - the credit point system:
Making art and keeping your Nordanner active may earn you the proud title "Quality Blood".
To become Quality Blood, your Nordanner must gain 15 points using the system below:

:bulletpurple: One registration, colored, headshot or full body: 1 point*
Even if it is animated/has a background etc you will only get the points for it as a reference!
*Registration image is needed to gain other points!

:bulletpurple: Uncolored art: 0.5
Includes digital sketches, pencil drawings, charcoal shaded art, uncolored greyscales etc, full body or headshots are the same. (Remember even on uncolored art the markings must at least be sketched in.)

:bulletpurple: Partial body, colored: 0.5
Partial body is anything that does not go to the knee or only shows a portion of the horse. We welcome creativity however please note that just a hoof will no longer count. It either needs to show all 4 feet or extend up to the belly.

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: 1 point
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. This applies to chibi as well as non chibi drawings. With plain background we are referring to solid colored backgrounds, abstract texture backgrounds or transparent backgrounds with drop shadows etc. Just sections of blue and green are also considered simple. (And brown and blue, basically just 2 sections of color is considered simple.)

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: 2 points
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. With painted backgrounds we are referring to an actual background created by the artist him/herself, such as showing the horse in the paddock, a riding arena, forest etc.

:bulletpurple: Show entries OR training images OR Dragon tack images: +1 point
By +1 we mean you add it to the base scoring. So full body art show entry with bg is 2 +1 = 3 points. These points do not stack. So if you have a show entry that also has dragon tack you still only receive +1 for the entire image.
For training we ONLY count images where a handler and/or rider is visible, partial body accepted. We do not accept stick figures or fingers thrown in on the side. And shadow trainers are not allowed either to avoid people using brushes to quickly add training. Anywhere you do not see handler/rider will not be accepted no matter what, we want it to be very clear what is training and what is not. The point in awarding the extra point is to give you a bit of a reward for drawing in the human, humans are hard! So free jumping only counts if handler is shown on the ground etc.
For dragon tack it must be full body, headshots with dragon tack unfortunately don’t count. The goal in giving the extra point is to, again, reward you for drawing in the full tack.

:bulletpurple: Show Placings:

Special show titles: Champion, Reserve Champion, Best in Show, Judge’s Choice etc: +1 point

1st place: +3 points

2nd place: +2 points

3rd place: +1 point

4th place or lower: +0.5 point

Must be officially placed. If you don’t know the exact placing you don’t get the points! Import hunt and major official events like dragon hunts etc count the same as a normal show. If you’re ever unsure whether a group contest counts for show points please feel free to ask!

:bulletpurple: Animations: +2 points
Example: Full body art with no background + animated = 3 points
If the horse is shown more than once on a page each separate image of the horse must be animated in some way. If only the background is animated that is +2 overall for the entire image.
Also! If your animation is a background animation you may not just copy and paste the same thing animated into each image. Think of this like the line rules, if you use it once that’s the only time it counts. (This doesn’t mean you can’t have all your horses blink, just don’t copy paste things!)
New! For complex full body animations (such as running/rearing animations) +4. This will be up to admin discretion though, it will be confirmed by other admins that it is a complex animation if it’s not entirely clear.

:bulletpurple: Statues/Plushies:
These are new so we’re still working out the kinks here!
Sculptures:
- If this is a model you purchased and painted to look like your horse (details matter here guys, we need to be able to tell it’s your horse): 1
- If this is a basic horse sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 2
- If this is a detailed sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 4
Plushies:
- If this is a basic plushie created to look like your horse: 2
- If this is a complex detailed plushie created to look like your horse: 4

:bulletpurple: Stories:
This section is also new so we’re still working it out. Be patient with us while we make sure everything works like it should.
The story must directly relate to your horse in some way. Character building is totally ok! We just don’t want to see 5 paragraphs with your humans or anthro-badgers discussing why toast is amazing and then a bit of “and Mary Sue glanced out to see Mr. Fish training in the yard” at the end.
- 500 words: +1 point
- 1,000 words: +2 points
- 1,500 words: +3 points
- 2,000 words: +4 points

Note! If another Nordanner is included in the story (Has to me more than just “Gold was there” and I will be scanning to check this.) that horse can earn +1 towards their kaaring as well.

:bulletpurple: Kaaring Farms
Yes, we all know kaaring farms and we’ve seen them become much more prevalent lately.
So! No low-quality kaaring farms will be allowed. Images must be scanned or photographed properly, if horses cannot be made out clearly it doesn't count, this means markings must be clear and the horse must be large enough to make out. If there are a few images on a page they need to at least be colored. We do not want to see pages of uncolored images with a few sketchy trainers. If we believe an image to be a kaaring farm and we have it confirmed by another admin either points will be deducted or it simply will not count towards kaaring.
We know you want to get your horses to the next level quickly but the point is to reward you for the work it takes to get there, not reward you for creating 20 images with a bunch of blinking headshots. We love you guys but it’s just gotten a bit out of hand.

:bulletpurple: Lineage Points:
Please note! In order to get points for lineage the horse must be officially registered as Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood with the group in order to count for points. They may have enough kaaring but if they’re not marked on either the Kaaring Journal or their ID list then it doesn’t count. Example: 675 Elephantboots <- no stars or trophies, not registered. *****675 Elephantboots <- 5 stars, registered as Quality Blood etc.

- Purebred offspring reaching “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Includes direct offspring, great grand offsprings etc.

- Each parent in lineage with “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Example: Sire, dam and grand sire being quality blood would earn the foal 6 points.

Attention! There is now a cap on how much kaaring your horse can earn from lineage, that cap is 100 kaaring points.

:bulletpurple: Photo backgrounds, premade lineart and other types of stock made by you or others: 0 points.

Art rules:
Both digital and traditional art are welcome.

No premade lineart, no re-using old lineart. If you use a set of lines in one image you may not reuse it in another, this applies to registration images as well.

Backgrounds may NOT be photo, art stock, or reused to count for points.

Shading is not a demand.

Each image only counts once!

Photomanipulations do not count for any points.

Also! If you draw your horse’s ref, and then use that same ref to design the tack, you can only count that image once, not twice, since you are re-using the reference.  

Art made by others:
Art made by others count as much as art made by yourself, whether it’s a gift or purchased images.

Same rules are applied to this art in order for it to count though, just as when you draw it yourself.

When a Nordanner is sold all points are transferred to the new owner.

Import and foal designs cannot be counted towards kaaring since they are made with lineart.


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The Levels

:star: 15 points

:star::star: 30 points

:star::star::star: 45 points

:star::star::star::star: 60 points

:star::star::star::star::star: 75 – Horse can use the group Best Mare/Best stallion ribbon and title.

:trophy: 200 points – Horse is awarded 10 extra free breedings mutation or natural and the title Excellent Blood.

:trophy::trophy: 400 points – Horse is titled Supreme Blood. Natural Nordanners are awarded unlimited breedings. However 100 of the kaaring must be done by the owners themselves. Mutation horses that have reached 400 with art kaaring alone are awarded new potions that can be found here - Kaaring Unlocked Potions List

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How to register as Quality / Excellent / Supreme Blood
Also known as: A guide on how to not make Shadow go crazy.

To register the horse at the right kaaring level you must:

1. Send in a NOTE to the Nordanner group.
2. Title the note the level you are hoping to the register the horse at. Example: “Quality Nordanner” “Excellent Nordanner” etc.
3. Include a link to the horse’s reference and kaaring journal.
4. List all valid art points in a journal using thumbnails. (You may also use st.ash documents if you’d rather not take up journals. And! Should thumbnails just not work for you or not be a feasible option then please make sure your links are named and properly listed. I will not accept just fav.me/ over and over again. Make sure you tell me this though!)
5. List all valid lineage by listing the ID number and name or just the ID number and how much you’re counting it for (+2 / +3).
6. Please do not list the entire lineage for the horse. I only need the ones that you are counting as QB or above. It’s much easier not to have to try and look through each line of lineage to see if you put a star next to the horse’s name or not.
7. List all show placings and proof of these placings. Please don’t make me search through multiple pages, just link me to the exact journal/location that shows the placings for that class/show.
8. You all would be amazing and really streamline the kaaring process if you can include the totals for each section. It’s so wonderful to not have to guess how much you’re counting an image or group of images for. This way if we have a discrepancy I can figure out why.
9. To make sure I can handle multiple notes in one day I’m going to ask you guys to limit notes to 4 Nordanners (4 checks). However! There is an exception to this, Excellent and Supreme Blood checks need to be in their own notes. The reasons I’m asking for this rule to be followed is so I can get to more than 1 note per night.
10. When checked and accepted (or if there are problems) you will get a reply.
11. Horse is NOT Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood before it has been accepted by the kaaring admin!

Some credit goes to :iconharpg-aha: and :iconh-e-w-a: for the idea of a credit system!

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Here is a quick example of how to count out your horse’s kaaring using part of the kaaring from ShadowRaven1’s horse Peaches.
Note! This is just one of the ways to properly organize your kaaring. There are several other methods that I have come across and that work just as well. If you’re ever curious on how to set up your journal/st.ash etc please feel free to send me a note on my account, I am always willing to help.

Registration picture: +1
1312 Peaches And Cream by ShadowRaven1

Headshots, colored: +0.5
1312 Peach HS by Absolute-CheeseFace

Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: +1


Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: +2
Peach Grove by ShadowRaven1
Purebred offspring reaching "Quality Blood" status: +4
1729 Soeia's Mermista
4470 Surrender the Moment
Each parent in lineage with "Excellent Blood" status: +3
461 KS Going Spotty

Total Points: 11.5

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:iconnight-angel-stable:
Night-angel-stable Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey there x3

I was wondering...I saw in the writing portion that if an additional horse is added they get +1 Kaaring. Does this also mean that if you wrote a 2,000 word story that is literally equally about both horses, you would just pick which horse got 4 and which got 1 kaaring? Or would that count as +4 for both of them?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner 1 day ago
As long as each horse is equally featured in the story they would both get +4 points.
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:iconnight-angel-stable:
Night-angel-stable Featured By Owner 1 day ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ok cool <3 Thank you for getting back so quickly! :D
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner 1 day ago
You're welcome!
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:iconslytherinacres:
SlytherinAcres Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
So I have a question.

If I repaint a model horse [1 kaaring] and I enter it into an RNG show, would it get points for the show?
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:iconchiaroscurostud:
chiaroscurostud Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015
Question! My friend's really into photomanipulation and she wants to do one of my Nords. Is there a reason why photomanips aren't allowed to be submitted as kaaring, since, to my understanding, quite a bit of effort can go into photomanips?
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
They don't count for points because often times enough, while some have a lot of effort put into them and genuinely look nice, a lot of the manips use a precut horse slapped onto a premade background and call it a day. They put 5 minutes of effort into it and expect it to count. If we take one, we have to take them all unfortunetly
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Tygiir Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If there are two horses in the picture, say a full body with background and training and animation and whatnot, and they both feature the same animation and they both have handlers and everything, would it count for 5 kaaring per horse? or would it be something else?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015
From what you're describing that would be 5 kaaring per horse.
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:icontygiir:
Tygiir Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright! Thanks!
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:iconabosz007:
abosz007 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Iiiis there any rule against getting kaaring for picturing your Nordanner as Centaur due to any kind of wizardry going on at the stable? :giggle: 
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015
Unfortunately centaurs or anthropomorphized versions of Nordanners do not count towards kaaring. You are absolutely welcome to draw them as such but it wouldn't count towards your overall total :(.
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
thanks for the reply! but is there any reason behind it O-O
like i understand one shouldnt make their nordanner all human and really unrecognizable XP
but if itd be a centaur that can be very well recognized at the pictured nordanner?
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015
I think it borders too closely to not having it be clearly a Nordanner (true to the breed). However I can definitely check with Cloud and see if there's further reasoning behind it. The rule has been in place for several years now so to be honest I'm not sure what the initial reasoning was ^^;.
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Hmm maybe people made them unrecognizable or something, or thats the reason iiid see behind it. i'd be really glad if you could perhaps check with cloud :'D i'm darn curious but also would love to bring a little twist into my nordanner herd and since they do use potions to get half fish or grow wings and the like, i was wondering why half human wouldnt qualify :giggle: 
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Cloudrunner64 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're more than welcome to draw your horses as centaurs if you like, but they cannot count for kaaring and I would appreciate it if you removed any reference to the Nordanner potions as there are none that cause your horse to become half-human. Other potions that allow physical changes are animal enough in nature to keep horses recognizable as well. Technically making your own potions can get you a warning, so please keep that in mind :)
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abosz007 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
ii dont know some of the kelpies look odder to me than a centaur thats why i was wondering.
But no i didnt mean to interfere with the rules.

Also when you bring up the own made potions, what is the "storyline" reason behind not using own potions on nordanners that is "legal" to say in stories?
Because i do have my wizard chars using potions now and then in my stories at the stable -obviously not on nordanners- but i wonder how we can put it why they are not allowed to XD? like some magic-related ....uhm...nordanner stud farm admins  forbidding it ? (no i am not making fun of anything i just dont know how to describe it maybe like ministry of magic in harry potter having their rules that gets you otherwise into prison ...?)
thank you for your time but ive always wanted to ask but had no courage to :'D
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Cloudrunner64 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh well you know we're cuddly around here so never fear about asking questions! :hug: 

WELL to be perfectly honest it has just always "been that way" without much of an explanation xD My interpretation of the rule is that Nordanners are essentially immune to outside magic. Only what's created by the Queen/Alerian mages has any effect on them. However I imagine the original thought was that allowing people to use whatever magic etc they want would render the idea of having potions basically useless; the 'story aspect' I've attached is the only feasible thing I could come up with that made any sense. 
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semper-n-aeternum Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi guys! c:

I was wondering if you could tell me if this would be counted
as the +4 animation since it's more than an ear flick/blink?
Blue Night
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015
Yes that would be considered worth +4.
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:iconsemper-n-aeternum:
semper-n-aeternum Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!
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:iconhylianwolflink:
HylianWolfLink Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Potentially stupid question, since I've been gone for awhile :dummy: 
Blaze is over 30 points now, although he's already considered Quality Blood. Do I need to send in another note to confirm his second star? Would I still title it Quality Nordanner? 
Thanks, lovelies! :love: 
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015
For us to be able to mark him as 2 stars and to unlock the kaaring potions you would need to send in another note. However if you are uninterested in the kaaring potions you can of course choose to wait and register him at a higher kaaring level.
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:iconhylianwolflink:
HylianWolfLink Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, great, thank you! I think I'll just resubmit him then :icongrinstareeyesplz:
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TheMs0kitty Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015
Hello!
So for the dragon hunt I wrote a story- Dare to Leap- and that counted for 4 kaaring.
But recently, I translated the story into Spanish for my extended family (who cannot speak English). It took me a very long time (much longer than it took to write the story in the first place), and I was wondering- does it count for any points?
Here it is: Atrevete a Saltar- Espanol It's in my own words, the only help that google translate gave was translating a few words I had forgotten (I am fluent in Spanish, but I don't speak it nearly as well as English). You can look up any paragraph in Google translate and see that it is different (that program is so silly sometimes xD).

Since these are technically different words, even if they are saying the same thing, I just don't know if I should count it or not. Any opinions? xD
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015
Unfortunately the translation would not count even though it did take you a lot of time as it is telling the same story just in a different language.
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:iconthems0kitty:
TheMs0kitty Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015
Alright, thank you!
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:iconowlvis:
Owlvis Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi, does this count as headshot or partial body? c:
Christmas Gathering
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015
That would count as partial body (which is the same in points as a headshot) and would be worth .5 kaaring ^^.
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:iconsemper-n-aeternum:
semper-n-aeternum Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Question.. do we get kaaring credit for backgrounds if we do them with our headshots or no?
Image in question: Dante Sexay Face
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Sadly, no, a headshot is only worth .5 points with or without a background :c
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:iconsemper-n-aeternum:
semper-n-aeternum Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Alrighty, thank you dear! <3 c:
Tis fine, I was just curious. 
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Citharoedum Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Please tell me this is a complex -.- On with the Show xD
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015
Yes that would absolutely be considered complex!
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:iconcitharoedum:
Citharoedum Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! Just making sure ;u;
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Shayla-Estate Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
Quick question on training images.

I have sketch of one of my Nordanners doing some endurance training in water. I have the rider/trainer partially shown but it is just from about the knew/calf down. Is that enough to count for the image being a training image, or should I try and add more of the human?
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
I would probably need to see the image in question to give you the best answer :).
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:iconshayla-estate:
Shayla-Estate Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
I have it stored in sta.sh, so I wasn't able to link it while at work. Here it is. Endurance Training For some reason the sketch uploaded the wrong direction. :XD:
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:iconshayla-estate:
Shayla-Estate Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015
Original sta.sh image was deleted because it was sideways. Replaced with this one. Endurance Training
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
There's a good amount of detail on that, I would be willing to give that the point for training :).
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:iconshayla-estate:
Shayla-Estate Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014
Great. It'll be fully colored and possibly animated once it's all done. Thank you for reviewing it.
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:iconpluffyfluffy:
PluffyFluffy Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  New member Student Digital Artist
I am wondering, I soon hope to own my own Nord, and I want to know.... so long as its at least fairly well done and looks like the Nord its for, can kaaring art be done in pixels?
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014
Yes! As long as it is very clear which Nord the art is of, and it's not a premade template etc.
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:iconpluffyfluffy:
PluffyFluffy Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2014  New member Student Digital Artist
Oh good! I Really enjoy making pixels, especially when you have to make it look as close to exact to something as possible, so I'm glad it would be allowed!
And nope, no premade templates for me, I make everything by hand, more rewarding to me XD

(one of my big goals is to find someone with-unless I get one myself someday- a very simple looking Nord, and try to make a 25x25 pixel of it..... just for the pure fun of the challenge it would bring ....even if at that size it likely wouldn't count XD)
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:iconcitharoedum:
Citharoedum Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"We just don’t want to see 5 paragraphs with
your humans or anthro-badgers discussing why
toast is amazing and then a bit of “and Mary Sue glanced
out to see Mr. Fish training in the yard” at the end."

Can someone give the person who wrote this an award please?
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:iconzombise:
Zombise Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It may have said it up there and i just missed it, but how much kaaring is needed to make quality blood?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014
15 points of kaaring is needed to make quality blood :).
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:iconzombise:
Zombise Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! c:
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CasThePizzaMan Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do show placings count as kaaring that the owner has earned for the horse for supreme blood? 0: 
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014
Yes as long as the entry was done by the owner it counts :).
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