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Nordanner Kaaring System

Journal Entry: Sun Nov 27, 2011, 7:39 AM




:bulletyellow: NOTE:
The Kaaring List journal is not a complete list of registered quality blood horses. The Kaaring List is for us admins to update the ID Lists. Horse names are removed from the Kaaring List once the kaaring is noted on the ID lists.

As you read this you’ll notice certain changes have been made and things have been added. Please note: these changes are not retroactive for your kaaring level. This means that if your horse is already registered at a current level it stays that way (they never go down in levels) however you will have to take these changes into consideration for their next level. This means any art done even before the changes will still be held to these rules.

Quality Blood - the credit point system:
Making art and keeping your Nordanner active may earn you the proud title "Quality Blood".
To become Quality Blood, your Nordanner must gain 15 points using the system below:

:bulletpurple: One registration, colored, headshot or full body: 1 point*
Even if it is animated/has a background etc you will only get the points for it as a reference!
*Registration image is needed to gain other points!

:bulletpurple: Uncolored art: 0.5
Includes digital sketches, pencil drawings, charcoal shaded art, uncolored greyscales etc, full body or headshots are the same. (Remember even on uncolored art the markings must at least be sketched in.)

:bulletpurple: Partial body, colored: 0.5
Partial body is anything that does not go to the knee or only shows a portion of the horse. We welcome creativity however please note that just a hoof will no longer count. It either needs to show all 4 feet or extend up to the belly.

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: 1 point
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. This applies to chibi as well as non chibi drawings. With plain background we are referring to solid colored backgrounds, abstract texture backgrounds or transparent backgrounds with drop shadows etc. Just sections of blue and green are also considered simple. (And brown and blue, basically just 2 sections of color is considered simple.)

:bulletpurple: Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: 2 points
In order to count as full body it must go to the knees or past. With painted backgrounds we are referring to an actual background created by the artist him/herself, such as showing the horse in the paddock, a riding arena, forest etc.

:bulletpurple: Show entries OR training images OR Dragon tack images: +1 point
By +1 we mean you add it to the base scoring. So full body art show entry with bg is 2 +1 = 3 points. These points do not stack. So if you have a show entry that also has dragon tack you still only receive +1 for the entire image.
For training we ONLY count images where a handler and/or rider is visible, partial body accepted. We do not accept stick figures or fingers thrown in on the side. And shadow trainers are not allowed either to avoid people using brushes to quickly add training. Anywhere you do not see handler/rider will not be accepted no matter what, we want it to be very clear what is training and what is not. The point in awarding the extra point is to give you a bit of a reward for drawing in the human, humans are hard! So free jumping only counts if handler is shown on the ground etc.
For dragon tack it must be full body, headshots with dragon tack unfortunately don’t count. The goal in giving the extra point is to, again, reward you for drawing in the full tack.

:bulletpurple: Show Placings:

Special show titles: Champion, Reserve Champion, Best in Show, Judge’s Choice etc: +1 point

1st place: +3 points

2nd place: +2 points

3rd place: +1 point

4th place or lower: +0.5 point

Must be officially placed. If you don’t know the exact placing you don’t get the points! Import hunt and major official events like dragon hunts etc count the same as a normal show. If you’re ever unsure whether a group contest counts for show points please feel free to ask!

:bulletpurple: Animations: +2 points
Example: Full body art with no background + animated = 3 points
If the horse is shown more than once on a page each separate image of the horse must be animated in some way. If only the background is animated that is +2 overall for the entire image.
Also! If your animation is a background animation you may not just copy and paste the same thing animated into each image. Think of this like the line rules, if you use it once that’s the only time it counts. (This doesn’t mean you can’t have all your horses blink, just don’t copy paste things!)
New! For complex full body animations (such as running/rearing animations) +4. This will be up to admin discretion though, it will be confirmed by other admins that it is a complex animation if it’s not entirely clear.

:bulletpurple: Statues/Plushies:
These are new so we’re still working out the kinks here!
Sculptures:
- If this is a model you purchased and painted to look like your horse (details matter here guys, we need to be able to tell it’s your horse): 1
- If this is a basic horse sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 2
- If this is a detailed sculpture created and painted to look like your horse: 4
Plushies:
- If this is a basic plushie created to look like your horse: 2
- If this is a complex detailed plushie created to look like your horse: 4

:bulletpurple: Stories:
This section is also new so we’re still working it out. Be patient with us while we make sure everything works like it should.
The story must directly relate to your horse in some way. Character building is totally ok! We just don’t want to see 5 paragraphs with your humans or anthro-badgers discussing why toast is amazing and then a bit of “and Mary Sue glanced out to see Mr. Fish training in the yard” at the end.
- 500 words: +1 point
- 1,000 words: +2 points
- 1,500 words: +3 points
- 2,000 words: +4 points

Note! If another Nordanner is included in the story (Has to me more than just “Gold was there” and I will be scanning to check this.) that horse can earn +1 towards their kaaring as well.

:bulletpurple: Kaaring Farms
Yes, we all know kaaring farms and we’ve seen them become much more prevalent lately.
So! No low-quality kaaring farms will be allowed. Images must be scanned or photographed properly, if horses cannot be made out clearly it doesn't count, this means markings must be clear and the horse must be large enough to make out. If there are a few images on a page they need to at least be colored. We do not want to see pages of uncolored images with a few sketchy trainers. If we believe an image to be a kaaring farm and we have it confirmed by another admin either points will be deducted or it simply will not count towards kaaring.
We know you want to get your horses to the next level quickly but the point is to reward you for the work it takes to get there, not reward you for creating 20 images with a bunch of blinking headshots. We love you guys but it’s just gotten a bit out of hand.

:bulletpurple: Lineage Points:
Please note! In order to get points for lineage the horse must be officially registered as Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood with the group in order to count for points. They may have enough kaaring but if they’re not marked on either the Kaaring Journal or their ID list then it doesn’t count. Example: 675 Elephantboots <- no stars or trophies, not registered. *****675 Elephantboots <- 5 stars, registered as Quality Blood etc.

- Purebred offspring reaching “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Purebred offspring reaching “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Includes direct offspring, great grand offsprings etc.

- Each parent in lineage with “Quality Blood” status: 2 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Excellent Blood” status: 3 points
- Each parent in lineage with “Supreme Blood” status: 4 points
Example: Sire, dam and grand sire being quality blood would earn the foal 6 points.

Attention! There is now a cap on how much kaaring your horse can earn from lineage, that cap is 100 kaaring points.

:bulletpurple: Photo backgrounds, premade lineart and other types of stock made by you or others: 0 points.

Art rules:
Both digital and traditional art are welcome.

No premade lineart, no re-using old lineart. If you use a set of lines in one image you may not reuse it in another, this applies to registration images as well.

Backgrounds may NOT be photo, art stock, or reused to count for points.

Shading is not a demand.

Each image only counts once!

Photomanipulations do not count for any points.

Also! If you draw your horse’s ref, and then use that same ref to design the tack, you can only count that image once, not twice, since you are re-using the reference.  

Art made by others:
Art made by others count as much as art made by yourself, whether it’s a gift or purchased images.

Same rules are applied to this art in order for it to count though, just as when you draw it yourself.

When a Nordanner is sold all points are transferred to the new owner.

Import and foal designs cannot be counted towards kaaring since they are made with lineart.


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The Levels

:star: 15 points

:star::star: 30 points

:star::star::star: 45 points

:star::star::star::star: 60 points

:star::star::star::star::star: 75 – Horse can use the group Best Mare/Best stallion ribbon and title.

:trophy: 200 points – Horse is awarded 10 extra free breedings mutation or natural and the title Excellent Blood.

:trophy::trophy: 400 points – Horse is titled Supreme Blood. Natural Nordanners are awarded unlimited breedings. However 100 of the kaaring must be done by the owners themselves. Mutation horses that have reached 400 with art kaaring alone are awarded new potions that can be found here - Kaaring Unlocked Potions List

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How to register as Quality / Excellent / Supreme Blood
Also known as: A guide on how to not make Shadow go crazy.

To register the horse at the right kaaring level you must:

1. Send in a NOTE to the Nordanner group.
2. Title the note the level you are hoping to the register the horse at. Example: “Quality Nordanner” “Excellent Nordanner” etc.
3. Include a link to the horse’s reference and kaaring journal.
4. List all valid art points in a journal using thumbnails. (You may also use st.ash documents if you’d rather not take up journals. And! Should thumbnails just not work for you or not be a feasible option then please make sure your links are named and properly listed. I will not accept just fav.me/ over and over again. Make sure you tell me this though!)
5. List all valid lineage by listing the ID number and name or just the ID number and how much you’re counting it for (+2 / +3).
6. Please do not list the entire lineage for the horse. I only need the ones that you are counting as QB or above. It’s much easier not to have to try and look through each line of lineage to see if you put a star next to the horse’s name or not.
7. List all show placings and proof of these placings. Please don’t make me search through multiple pages, just link me to the exact journal/location that shows the placings for that class/show.
8. You all would be amazing and really streamline the kaaring process if you can include the totals for each section. It’s so wonderful to not have to guess how much you’re counting an image or group of images for. This way if we have a discrepancy I can figure out why.
9. To make sure I can handle multiple notes in one day I’m going to ask you guys to limit notes to 4 Nordanners (4 checks). However! There is an exception to this, Excellent and Supreme Blood checks need to be in their own notes. The reasons I’m asking for this rule to be followed is so I can get to more than 1 note per night.
10. When checked and accepted (or if there are problems) you will get a reply.
11. Horse is NOT Quality/Excellent/Supreme Blood before it has been accepted by the kaaring admin!

Some credit goes to :iconharpg-aha: and :iconh-e-w-a: for the idea of a credit system!

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Here is a quick example of how to count out your horse’s kaaring using part of the kaaring from ShadowRaven1’s horse Peaches.
Note! This is just one of the ways to properly organize your kaaring. There are several other methods that I have come across and that work just as well. If you’re ever curious on how to set up your journal/st.ash etc please feel free to send me a note on my account, I am always willing to help.

Registration picture: +1
1312 Peaches And Cream by ShadowRaven1

Headshots, colored: +0.5
1312 Peach HS by Absolute-CheeseFace

Full body, colored, no or plain backgrounds: +1


Full body, colored, painted backgrounds: +2
Peach Grove by ShadowRaven1
Purebred offspring reaching "Quality Blood" status: +4
1729 Soeia's Mermista
4470 Surrender the Moment
Each parent in lineage with "Excellent Blood" status: +3
461 KS Going Spotty

Total Points: 11.5

Add a Comment:
 
:iconhylianwolflink:
HylianWolfLink Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi darlings! 
Just popping in for a quick question: does detailed headshots like this one still just count for the .5 Karring? 
Let me know :heart:
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yep, still for just .5 kaaring
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:iconhylianwolflink:
HylianWolfLink Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay I figured, thanks, love!
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BrowncoatWhit Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Okay -- a bit of n00b confusion I'm having:  when do points from lineage apply?  Do you have to earn the Quality Blood title first independent from the lineage points, then afterwards you can total them in?  Or can lineage points count toward that first Quality Blood rank?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Lineage points can count toward that first Quality Blood rank :). Just keep in mind that for any of the unlockable potions you have to reach that level without assistance from lineage, so only points from art unlock them ^^.
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BrowncoatWhit Featured By Owner 2 days ago
Sweet!  Thank you so much for clearing that point up for me!
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:iconkiyiyahowlingwolf:
KiyiyaHowlingWolf Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Could I get help setting up a journal for my nordanners? I'm trying to add up everything that they have but I'm just confusing myself lolz
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:iconbrowncoatwhit:
BrowncoatWhit Featured By Owner 2 days ago
I just set up a Google Docs spreadsheet.  It does all my math for me.  :)   MUCH easier way to go in the long term, I think!
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner 3 days ago
You're welcome to send me a note on my account and I'd be happy to help you get everything tallied :).
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:iconkiyiyahowlingwolf:
KiyiyaHowlingWolf Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sent the note well two lolz
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TanglewoodAcres Featured By Owner May 12, 2015
Do the word count points stack by any chance? Say for example, we wrote a 4000 word story with our image (entirely centred around the Nordy) would we be able to count it as 8 Kaaring? 
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 13, 2015
Yep! Word count does stack with the images :).
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:icontanglewoodacres:
TanglewoodAcres Featured By Owner May 13, 2015
Great :D time to write an essay XD
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:iconwildspiritsliveinme:
WildSpiritsLiveInMe Featured By Owner May 10, 2015  Student General Artist
If you have more than one Nordanner in a single picture, do they all get kaaring for how they were done? Or do you take it all and pick a single horse to put it on? Or do you only get the amount as if there was only one horse?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 11, 2015
Each horse gets the amount of kaaring for how they were done. If it's 4 different horses full body on a full background they would each get 2 points. Does that make sense? :)
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The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner May 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You say "shadow riders" not accepted, does that include where the face isn't drawn in? I draw every other bit of the rider but can never get the eyes and mouth on the face, so usually just leave the face blank...would that be acceptable? :)
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 7, 2015
As long as the rest has details that would be acceptable (assuming I am correctly picturing what you are describing ^^).
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:iconthe-elvenqueen:
The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
alright, thank you! Yes, everything else is detailed as a rider, just not the face ^^

An example of a similar picture with rider, done for a different breed, if it helps to illustrate what I am asking :):
Sunset Dressage [Payment] by The-Elvenqueen
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 9, 2015
Yes that would be fine and is definitely not a "shadow" figure.
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:iconthe-elvenqueen:
The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome,  thank you! :)
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Owlvis Featured By Owner May 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have kaaring farms that were done in 2013 as payments etc, back when kaaring farms were still "allowed". Do they still count, because they were done so long ago, or should I scrap them from my horse's kaaring count altogether?
He wasn't my horse back then, so I can't confirm if his kaaring was ever counted before now.
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 5, 2015
Unfortunately no. As it states :
This means that if your horse is already registered at a current level it stays that way (they never go down in levels) however you will have to take these changes into consideration for their next level. This means any art done even before the changes will still be held to these rules.


While it is frustrating when that happens kaaring farms done before this new rule set will still be held to these rules, as with any piece of art.
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:iconowlvis:
Owlvis Featured By Owner May 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you!
Just so that I understand for next time; if a horse is confirmed 150 with the kaaring farms way back in 2012, for example, even if I send him in for his 200 level today, because he was already confirmed as 150, those images still count? Its only kaaring farms done since he was confirmed that don't count? Only because you said they never go down, I assume if he was confirmed 150, he has to remain 150?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 6, 2015
No sadly, the level never goes down. So if you had sent in a horse at 150 he is at 5 stars and can't lose that level even if he's now at 10 points (drastic example). However in order to get to Excellent Blood those points have to be made back up.
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:iconowlvis:
Owlvis Featured By Owner May 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oooh ok now I understand, thank you!
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 6, 2015
You're welcome! ^^
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:iconowlvis:
Owlvis Featured By Owner May 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Do any of the heads done in kaaring farms count? Even just one? xD 
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner May 7, 2015
They can. Kaaring farms typically aren't just "0" points. I think I've only found one of those, most of time you just lose a large number of points from them. Each one is different though and there isn't a set number.
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The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So if we buy a Nord from someone and re-register it in our name, does the old reference move to count as normal Kaaring (e.g. headshot, fullbody etc.) and the new one counts for the +1 kaaring as registration? :)
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
That's correct :)
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:iconthe-elvenqueen:
The-Elvenqueen Featured By Owner May 3, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alrighty, awesome! Thanks for such a quick response! :D
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broomstick88 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
do headshot show entries count as shwo entries or is that full body only for the extra points?
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Show entries are a separate category, so it's be the headshot 0.5 + show entry 1, so the total would be 1.5
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broomstick88 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank you for the prompt response
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:iconsugaritch:
SugarItch Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can old references count towards kaaring?
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015
And to expand on what Zan said, they count for whatever the image would normally. So if it's a headshot reference, once it becomes the "old reference" it's worth .5. Does that make sense?
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:iconsugaritch:
SugarItch Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep, makes perfect sense :heart: Thanks for the explanation :D
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:iconzandromina:
Zandromina Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yes they may :)
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:iconsugaritch:
SugarItch Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay, thankyou! :D
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GoldenStables Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  Professional Artisan Crafter
Hi guys, could you please confirm the kaaring count for these two images?

Dance among the sand | 1/2 GoldenStables
Under the tree's | 2/2 GoldenStables 2/6 Cas 
they were commissioned linearts? How does that stack up? I'm just a little confused. 
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ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015
Hmm that's a little sketchy. If the linearts have absolutely never been used in any other image (whether Nordanner or not) it would count for kaaring. Otherwise it won't count at all.
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corbeau-royale Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015  New member
Hello!
It might just be a bit of nitpickiness, but can Kaaring journals be set out to link to deviations with the titles, rather than thumbnails? It doesn't really say anywhere, and I see a lot using thumbnails in KP journals, but it would fit with my overall "theme" to use titles rather than thumbs because it's easier for me to organise than huge pictures blocking about in the journals; it just creates bulk, in my opinion.

If it isn't allowed, that's fine! I was just wondering.
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2015
Perhaps I should update this journal but I actually do request that all kaaring journals use thumbnails ^^. They can be st.ash documents if you'd rather have the thumbnails in one of those instead of a journal. The reason for this is that it much more quickly and accurately allows me to tally the kaaring :).
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:iconcorbeau-royale:
corbeau-royale Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  New member
Ah okay, that's fine!
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HoT-Stables Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015
Are we going to end up getting a Supreme Blood ribbon/trophy like we did with the 200? :meow:
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AllspireEstate Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
allspireestate.deviantart.com/…

Would this be considered PB or FB? It shows a significant amount of the horse, just legs can't be seen in this perspective :roll: 
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015
Sadly because of the rules we have to have in place (due to circumventing effort in the past) that would only be partial body.
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AllspireEstate Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Darn, thank you for such a quick reply!
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Fontana-Roccia Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
So, if I were going to use a photo background, would the whole image count as 0, or would it count as +1 for full body, but the background wouldn't count?

Also would my icon count as Kaaring? That one is morbid curiosity (x
Everyone has icons of their Nords and I'm new to that party.
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:iconshadowraven1:
ShadowRaven1 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015
It would count for the full body points :).
And your icon, as long as it is not reused lineart, would also count as kaaring.
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